So what’s it like to live, or exist for many of us with CFS/ME and FM. I have since 1991, I was diagnosed by an Infectious Disease Specialist, Dr. Irving Salit, and had to under go, a battery of tests to rule everything else out. ME/CFS and FM varies from person to person. For years most of the medical community said it was psychiatric. Many have been damaged by psychiatric drugs, many forcibly committed by the psychiatric community to force their drugs on them. There is a subgroup that is dose sensitive or intolerant to antidepressants and other medications, of course this was ignored. Millions didn’t believe in it, you were just ‘tired” and “lazy”, and then of course was “you look well”. So do alot of cancer patients that are undergoing Chemo. You are left behind by your friends, even family in most cases, husbands and lovers leave often, as you can not keep up and they do not want to become caregivers. Increased isolation occurs and financial problems. Many are still faced with fighting for their ME/CFS and FM to be acknowledged for disability whether Government or Insurance.
Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome ( ME/CFS ) by WHO is Neurological Diagnostic Code encourage the classification of CFS/ME as a 'Nervous System Disease,' as worded in the ICD-10 G93.3 and From the August 2005 meeting of the CFSAC at the DHHS (Department of Health and Human Services, USA).and; CFS/ME should be classed alongside other diseases such as multiple sclerosis and motor neuron disease. Ontario CFS is Neurological Illness Diagnostic code 795 and 'Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome care' has now the OHIP time-based billing Code number K037 in 2005. But stigma, discrimination persists, due to lack of education to the public, doctors, research, and Governments.
There are Seven genomic subtypes of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome / Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (CFS/ME): that combine different variations in symptoms and severity. For those who are affected the worst, it can be a living nightmare. Many left bed and housebound unable to take care of themselves. Often unable to bath themselves or change their clothes, change your bed, or lift a brush to brush your hair, or your teeth. Many become wheelchair bound, some totally bed confined.
One of the best videos I have seen to try to explain to others is the Sleepy Dust video, which I will post again here:
I have done a few posts regarding ME/CFS, it is frequently mentioned as I endure it every day. Mine has always been severe and started with a flu, that hit my brain, central nervous system, my lungs, the muscles around my lungs, and the flu like symptoms, lead like fatigue. It was like no flu I had every had, and in some ways felt abit like polio, the way it affected my lungs and the muscles and ligaments around my chest squeezed so tight, breathing was extremely difficult, so was the pain. The fatigue and the weakness were extreme, and the severe cognitive problems, and continued after upon the littlest of exertion, worsening your symptoms and returning you to bed once again. The severity of mine fluctuated; however, it increasingly worsened over the years. Your brain get’s switched around and you often sleep all day and are awake all night. Or you hyper sleep with no REM sleep. You never wake up feeling refreshed and well. The smallest amount of physical or mental activity can cause flu-like symptoms, severe fatigue, and worsening of other symptoms. Cognitive difficulties become more pronounced – your responses are slower, less coherent, more confused, and you have difficulty recalling information and words. Recovery from reactive symptoms can take a day, weeks, or more. Light often hurts; sound becomes noise, and touch painful. This occurs for me during a ‘crash” when all your symptoms worsen at the same time, for many it is all the time and they have to live in darkened rooms. For me it was often months having severe set backs. Now it is severe all the time, especially since the repeated brain and body damage and dystonia that is spreading through my body. It can affect every functioning system of your brain and body.
I didn’t think I would live through ME/CFS and FM, many don’t. Suicide is the highest cause of death, then heart attacks and strokes as your blood volume and oxygen levels are low which affects the values of the heart having to pump harder. The mitochondria in your cells aren’t producing energy. The ‘disease” has been found in the cells around the spinal cord now during a forced autopsy on Sophia Mirza, which the medical community tried to cover in the UK. If it hadn’t been for a persistent MS specialist and Sophia’s mother Criona, they never would have found it. You can visit her site her mom and her sister have set up here http://www.sophiaandme.org.uk/ .
How is ME/CFS Diagnosed? -The patient must meet all 7 criteria.
Clinical Definition of ME/CFS
1. Fatigue: The patient must have a significant degree of new onset, unexplained, persistent, or recurrent physical and mental fatigue that substantially reduces activity level.
2. Post-Exertional Malaise and/or Fatigue: There is an inappropriate loss of physical and mental stamina, rapid muscular and cognitive fatigability, post-exertional malaise and/or fatigue and/or pain and a tendency for other associated symptoms within the patient’s cluster of symptoms to worsen. There is a pathologically slow recovery period – usually 24 hours or longer.
3. Sleep Dysfunction: There is unrefreshed sleep or sleep quantity or rhythm disturbances such as reversed or chaotic diurnal sleep rhythms.
4. Pain: There is a significant degree of myalgia. Pain can be experienced in the muscles and/or joints, and is often widespread and migratory in nature. The pain may also have neuralgic qualities. Often there are significant headaches of new type, pattern or severity
5. Neurological / Cognitive Manifestations: Two or more of the following difficulties should be present: confusion, impairment of concentration and short-term memory consolidation, disorientation, difficulty with information processing, categorizing and word retrieval, and perceptual and sensory disturbances – e.g. spatial instability and disorientation and inability to focus vision. Ataxia, muscle weakness and fasciculations are common. There may be overload phenomena: cognitive, sensory- e.g. photophobia and hypersensitivity to noise – and/or emotional overload, which may lead to “crash” periods and/or anxiety.
6. At Least One Symptom from Two of the Following Categories:
a) Autonomic Manifestations: orthostatic intolerance – neurally mediated hypotension, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, delayed postural hypotension; light-headedness; extreme pallor; nausea and irritable bowel syndrome; urinary frequency and bladder dysfunction; palpitations with or without cardiac arrhythmias; exertional dyspnea.
b) Neuroendocrine Manifestations: loss of thermostatic stability – subnormal body temperature and marked diurnal fluctuation, sweating episodes, recurrent feelings of feverishness and cold extremities; intolerance of extremes of heat and cold; marked weight change – anorexia or abnormal appetite; loss of adaptability and worsening of symptoms with stress.
c) Immune Manifestations: tender lymph nodes, recurrent sore throat, recurrent flu-like symptoms, general malaise, new sensitivities to food, medications and/or chemicals.
7. The illness must persist for at least 6 months although a preliminary diagnosis may be made earlier.
Other illnesses will be excluded.
What are Some Areas of Research?
Neuropathy and brain imaging: There is disruption in the communication between the brain and the other body systems. Abnormal levels of some of the body’s chemical messengers have been found. There is significantly less blood flow and metabolism in parts of the brain. Small lesions have been found in the brain.
Neurocognitive dysfunction: Research indicates brain dysfunction in many cognitive and verbal tasks.
Memory: There is dysfunction in the part of the brain that regulates new memory production, so events may erroneously be thought to be new.
Sensory information is mismanaged.
Autonomic nervous system: There is dysfunction of the body’s regulating and stabilizing systems.
Cardiac abnormalities: A number of abnormalities have been found in the heart. There is also a marked reduction in the circulating blood volume. Many patients have neurally mediated hypotension or tachycardia.
Abnormalities in the immune system: There is often significant activation of parts of the immune system. Poor cellular function with significant abnormal activity of the natural killer cells, that form part of the body’s antiviral defense system, has been established.
Antiviral defense pathway: There is dysfunction in an antiviral defense pathway. Some of the molecules are being abnormally cleaved. A test measuring the ratio between the normal weight molecules and the cleaved molecules can distinguish ME/CFS patients from healthy controls and FMS patients.
Infectious agents: ME/CFS patients likely have many active infections but it has not been determined if they are a cause or a result of the immune dysfunction
The support systems for ME/CFS survivors are very poor. A study by the Canadian Government was released, and forwarded by Lydia Nelson of the ME/FM National Network, if you or a love one, or a friend you know has ME/CFS and FM, I strongly advise you to spend a lot of time on the site, and forward it to everyone you know.
There are PDF’s on site at http://www.mefmaction.net/, and I hope you become a member for $25.00 a year, get quarterly newsletters and support this cause and non-profit agency that has changed the laws in Canada and created the Clinical Definition of ME/CFS. More research, support systems, public and government education and a CURE are needed. Currently Amplegin may be the most promising which has been held up by the FDA and Canada for several decades that also is used for HepC, HIV and oddly enough Cancer. It is available on a cost recovery program in Canada and some other countries and is expensive, you have to pay for the cost of the infusions and the doctor and nurse admistering them, unless of course, you can get into a trial study. Most have showed improvment, some have totally recoved, some replase but not as badly and go another round. Two infusions are requried a week, so finding veins can become a problem. I belong to several groups that are in the trials, they frequently say the first thing to go away is the dementia like problems, many are gleeful they have their lives back, or enough to fuction and enjoy it not just exist.
From some of the leading experts in the ME/CFS field, this about sum’s it up for those of us living with severe ME/CFS:
“Like all illnesses, the severity varies from patient to patient. Dr. Paul Cheney stated he had evaluated over 2,500 ME/CFS cases and it can be a nightmare of increasing disability with both physical and cognitive components. Severe cases can have both an MS-like and AIDS-like clinical appearance. Dr. Dan Peterson, found that, “ME/CFS patients experienced greater functional severity than the studied patients with heart disease, virtually all types of cancer and all other chronic illnesses”. 20 years after the epidemic, Dr. Peterson said he has never had a patient that recovered from ME/CFS. An unrelated study compared the quality of life of people with various illnesses, including patients undergoing chemotherapy, haemodialysis, as well as those with HIV (until the late terminal stage), liver transplants, coronary artery disease, and other ailments, and again found ME/CFS patients had the lowest quality of life. Dr. Leonard Jason stated in a radio interview that ME/CFS “is actually more debilitating than just about any other medical problem in the world”.
For detailed PDF's on ME/CFS and FM click here. Please download for yourself, your friends, and especially your doctors and specialists.
Much more information is available on http://www.mefmaction.net, spend several days there if you have ME/CFS or FM and also www.prohealth.com, especially their research and natural alternative healh products, which originally was www.immunesupport.com.
This is also located on Care2 News: Here C2NN
And: http://mobilebroadcastnews.com/MBN/blog/May-12-Chronic-Fatigue-SyndromeME-and-Fibromyalgia-Awareness-Day




Hi Cheryl . I am interested in the fact you have Dystonic and Myoclonic movements. Has this been caused by psychotropic drugs do you know or is it related to ME? I have been ill since 2005. I am fortunate as I am not housebound but I am unable to work. I have been seen by 4 neurologist, and have been diagnosed with ME by one, but was sent to one of the UK's CFS/ME clinics where the doctor said he didn't think I have CFS as i am not tired all the time and have too many neurological symptoms. The Wessley school dominate ME/CFS services here in the UK. I was sent to the top neuro hospital in the UK and to cut a long story short they have diagnosed a 'functional' movement disorder, that is a conversion disorder.
ReplyDeleteMy problems wtarted within hous of having had a flu jab. I had been ill a couple of times before this with a stomach bug. I won't bore you with all of my symptoms, but the ones that have made me question ME are the myoclonic jerks, dystonic movements (my head twists rapidly to one side, leg muscles spasm when walking, throat tightens when speaking, hands cramp when writing etc). Although I have heard of myoclonus in ME, and parkinsonism (which I may have) I have not heard of dystonia. The movements I have are so violent that I often make involuntary noises too.
You can see what I mean from my youtube vlog youtube.com/kaazoom
I am just interested as you are the first person with mE I have come accross who has mensitioned dystonia and dykensia. Do you think they are to do with medication or the ME. I hope you don't mind me asking.
Best Wishes,
Paul
the movement disorders I have are Secondary, meaning not genetic and they were caused from SSSRI's, antidepressants which cause an horrendous amount of damage many people are not aware of as well as a few other drugs that were not anti-psychotics, some of which and what happened are mentioned on the blog.
ReplyDeleteOther drugs that are not anti-psychotics can cause movement disorders & other damage: Buspar, Lithium, Xanax, Tegretol, Lamictal, as well as the SSRI's the latter being the worst other than the anti-psychotics. Having other illnesses, neurological, brain damage, not enough oxygen, some other factors can cause it or in conjuction with the drugs make you higher risk.
I sounds like you spent some time on my blog, it has a long ways to go, if you read the side bar and some of the other posts as it seems you have you will know why.
I have secondary progressive dystonia which is spreading through my body at an alarming rate now I also get the jerking movenments and I have the almost daily convulsions as well on-going, It is gruesome and it is very painful when it gets worse and you're body may eventually stay in that postition as it progresses, I am not looking forward to this as mine had progressed since last fall, and more the past few weeks actually. I have no neurlogist yet, and I have alot more damaged from the drugs not ever treated either.
Alot of other damage from these drugs I mentioned with the exception of anti-psychotics because I wasn't on them, can be done. I was slipped them a few times years ago for sleep and not told what they were, and couldn't tolerate them and stopped them fairly quickly and of course I wasn't told what I was being given. But it wasn't them and I know this for a fact, that was for a very short period of time in the 90' and for several days on one occasion they were weird stuff and couldn't tolerate.
ME/CFS is a neurological illnesses. I know the UK, as with many countries give ME/CFS surviors a hard time, they do here to. Being "tired" isn't want ME/CFS is about. Extreme fatigue is and the neurological problems, and the flu symptons, and others as per the Diagnosic list I posted. Perhaps you can print out the PDF's and take them to your doctors and keep one for yourself. The Clinical Definition is starting to be recognized around the world and was done here by the me/fm action network, the link to them is in the post as well.
You may have both, you certainly have dystonia from the sounds of it. ME/CFS can not cause movement diorders however it can make you more suseptable to adverse drug reactions, and their there is brain dysfunction and around the basial ganglia, oddly enough, to some degree I saw in some studies, which is also where movement disorders are mostly caused from damage there.
If you do a google search for "cfs and basial ganglia" alot comes up including medical clinical PDF's and studies. Putting in ME in stead of cfs and give that a try as well, the full word not the shortened M.E, for some reason google doesn't acknowledge it, not surprising ont their part.
So, I think I would have to say that both, the medications and that I have M.E./CFS in my case were definately factors. ME/CFS you also have low blood volume, and as stated there is a subgroup that are dose sensitive or intolerant to medications which doctors usually ignore they did with me and alot of people have been damaged.
However, alot of people are being damaged with SSRI's and getting dystonia's and dyskensia, and other damage, mine is extensive and unbelievalbe that so much damage and repeated could be done to one body with the drugs, and the doctors, and hey I took the medications, they have a lot of power over you the pills and the doctors getting them reliant on them, espeically psychatrists. If you are seeing a psychatrists be very very careful or if you are told to see one.
You must know of Sophia Mirza in the UK, what they did to her, the link is in the post to her website, her mom had built who I have been in contact.
btw, you can have a blog account here without having to have a blog, I was wondering why it was set to private although I know some do for personal/private reasons.
I sent you a friends link on Youtube. I haven't put my channel on here yet.
I don't mind you asking at all, I wish I could do more videos;, i will be, I am in very bad shape, I am very ill and alot of damage, I can't do them often, often I cna't speak or focus enough to do them or sit up, long list or my channel would have a huge amount on them by now.
If you have any more questions like this, it is great for others if you post on my blog and others can see, or right on the channel, although here I can give a longer response, on youtube you are limited to a short response. And thank you for asking. Informing people of what this illness is about, and it varies person to person, as per the link to the 7 subgroups, I suggest you readt that too, I am #7, the worst, also from the symptoms list I have almost all of them.
I am glad to hear you are getting care, I hope you get more and if you do have ME/CFS that it is diagnosied and addressed, and watch out for the drugs. Unfortunately I need some, and being denied because of my situation, do your research on the internet before a doctor gives you a drug or suggest brain surgery. My dystonia is getting so bad, at some point after I start getting medical care I should be getting in this corrupt province or elsewhere, it may become an option.
Having all the damage and my ME/CFS together is beyond belief.
I see you have family so you have supports which is great, many get left behind as mentioned.
Healing Blessings, come back and visit, and see you on YouTube
Cheryl
I put the link in to my you tube channel, I meant I haven't put in the youtube widegt for it, I may I don't know.
ReplyDeletewhen you say 'flu jab" do you mean "flu vaccination"? Paul. Vaccines help alot of people and have stop alot of illnesses like polio etc, except that alot cause alot of damage as well, which is a known fact.
ReplyDeleteSince or shortly after I got ME/CFS I stopped getting the yearly flu shot, as I got so very ill on them, it wasn't worth it. I didn't know then they also can do alot of damage. One has to really gauge when to get them and when not to.
cheryl
I just looked up conversion order, it's DSM psychatric, CRAP, which they says is HYSTERIA!
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_disorder
Get away from the doctor who says your movment disorders and ME/CFS are pschyatic aka conversion disorder THEY ARE NOT! Gosh I should have looked that up first before I responded.
see you on youtube
Cheryl